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Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:25 pm | Updated: 9:05 am, Thu Oct 25, 2012.

    POCATELLO — Idaho State University head football coach Mike Kramer has been suspended from coaching against the University of Montana this Saturday after shoving wide receiver Derek Graves during an Oct. 3 practice.

    The repercussions against him and the school may continue.

    Donald Jackson, the Alabama attorney representing Graves, said he anticipated the university would take minimal or no action against Kramer and believes that it is time to petition the NCAA to intervene.

    “I would consider it minimal when you have a head coach shoving a player on university property and all he gets is a one-game suspension,” Jackson said. “It almost says they are willing to tolerate that kind of behavior.”

    The attorney, who has represented players, coaches and universities in matters dealing mostly in the area of eligibility, said incidents such as this do not typically draw the NCAA’s intervention.

    “But at the same time, they do have an obligation and an interest in looking out for the safety and welfare of student athletes at an institution,” Jackson said. “In this case, it’s clear that the institution has failed.”

    Jackson said Tuesday afternoon that he plans to petition for NCAA intervention within 24 hours.

    The university is already under investigation by the NCAA for alleged rules violations involving at least one athletics booster.

    Kramer is currently being investigated by the Pocatello Police Department for shoving Graves to the ground during an

Oct. 3 practice. The university brought in a third party, a retired FBI agent, to handle its investigation into the incident.

    Jeff Tingey, ISU’s athletic director, announced on Tuesday via a written release from the university and during the Bengals’ weekly football news conference, that Kramer will be suspended for this weekend’s game.

    “Following a thorough investigation, Coach Kramer will serve a one-game suspension for this Saturday’s game at Montana,” he said.

    He also said the coach was “issued a letter of reprimand for his violation of ISU’s conduct policy.”

    Bengal offensive coordinator and associate head coach Don Bailey will serve as acting head coach during the game while defensive backs coach Daniel Drayton will serve as defensive coordinator.

    The athletic director also said that although Kramer is suspended for Saturday’s game, he will be allowed to coach the Bengals during the week and “all the way up until the bus leaves for the stadium.”

    Tingey and Kramer said they would not comment further about the situation because of the potential for criminal charges being filed against Kramer as well as potential civil suits against the coach and the university.

    “As this is a personnel matter, I will stick with the university policy as will everyone else in the department, and will not comment any further on this,” Tingey said.

    Tingey would also not confirm whether the university’s investigation is complete, saying only “thanks for your time. I appreciate it,” when asked.

    Kramer was also unwilling to talk about the shoving incident or the one-game suspension.

    “I’m not talking about any other situation other than the fact that as a football team we continue to try and grow, become better at all positions, at all categories and in every single way,” Kramer said.

    The coach also declined to comment as to whether Graves is still a member of the team.

    “We have no comment on players who are available or unavailable,” he said. “We never talk about guys that are unavailable and right now he is still not available. Our team is an internal thing. It’s a private matter and it’s a family matter.”

    Jackson believes ISU’s one-game suspension of Kramer stops well short of the mark in this instance.

    “A coach engaging in this kind of conduct should not be on the sidelines at a university, a high school, a middle school, an elementary school or any organized sports,” Jackson said. “If a chemistry professor behaved the same way in a classroom, would that conduct had been tolerated?

    “If the student had acted out and did the same thing to another student, or another athlete on that team, what would have happened? That student would have been arrested, and kicked off the team and probably have lost his scholarship.”

    Jackson admits he’s pretty passionate about this topic, but not only because Graves is his client. A former college athlete himself, Jackson says he has no tolerance for the kind of conduct Kramer displayed against Graves.

    “No matter who I am representing, this conduct would not be acceptable to me,” he said. “If I am representing a coach, this would be offensive to me. If I am representing a university and a coach did this, it would be offensive to me.”

    Jackson called the entire situation unfortunate, but also said he doesn’t believe officials at ISU had any intention of taking action against Kramer. He said there are no plans yet to file any kind of lawsuit and that he is still awaiting the completion of the police investigation.

    Pocatello City Attorney Dean Tranmer said that investigation is still ongoing. Police detectives are working on resolving questions posed by city prosecutors, Tranmer said.

    Although ISU would not answer questions about Graves’ current playing status, Jackson said  he had not been cleared.

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  • idahospud posted at 7:53 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    idahospud Posts: 85

    buy some luggage for Tingey and Kramer and send them away. ISU needs to try and recover what image they have left.

  • pe posted at 10:29 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    pe Posts: 96

    ISU suspended Kramer for one game according to their investigation and policy. People will have to accept the decision, end of story.

  • maggie6 posted at 6:51 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    maggie6 Posts: 568

    aaaaright truth detector
    Graves is an adult. If he were a kid like me I would have taken my helmet and cleaved one bald headed pig a good one.

    So that is one for Graves. Sure Kramer is alittle peeved because the little mormon missionary cops found a little pot on the boys in January.
    The holy sepulchre of Zion must be perpetuated and its rightousness preserved regardless of who they destroy in the process football player college kids football teams an entire fan base
    and ultimately ISU heil to mighty zion and all the little mormon missionary robots who infect the police department like maggots on dead meat.

  • Truth Detector posted at 6:24 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    Truth Detector Posts: 61

    Graves=Adult, not kid

  • Truth Detector posted at 6:24 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    Truth Detector Posts: 61

    Graves is a responsible adult, not a kid! That's the big problem here. We continue to baby these guys and enabled them to act like victims when things go bad.

    Again, Graves is an ADULT people!

  • Truth Detector posted at 6:22 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    Truth Detector Posts: 61

    I got Kramer in less than 30 seconds in the first round. This Graves is a wuss!

  • maggie6 posted at 4:03 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    maggie6 Posts: 568

    idaho State's Defensive woes stem back to Jan. 18 of this
    year when four veteran defensive players including Jordon Monga
    were dismissed from the team for possion of a controlled substance.
    In retrospect the season ended for the Bengals in 2012 last january.
    The Bengals never recovered. End of story

  • russet posted at 2:08 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    russet Posts: 18

    hey one said they where on Kramers side..Just the way Graves handled it..and if it was my kid..he would have never played football in the first place..

  • lrd3653 posted at 12:17 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    lrd3653 Posts: 8

    First of all, the one day suspension was a slap on the Hand. ANd furthermore, the ones that are saying Graves is a football player
    and Being a "girly"..If you look at it, if the kid was your kid, You
    would be doin the SAME thing, filing a complaint and fighting the
    system of the college for your children. And someone who works as
    the ADULT for your children, HAS NO RIGHT LAYING ANY
    HANDS on your own responsible child. I am speaking of teachers,
    principles, coaches, Bosses, etc. That Kramer should of
    recieved a termination or suspension for the rest of the season.
    And there WILL be a next time, if Kramer has already physically
    done this before. ANd that next time will be worse and to Your
    Child, nephew, grandson, adopted son, or step son. Than YOU will
    be filing the next papers. And it doesn't matter how old you are,
    no one is suppose to lay a hand on you. (besides your parents)

  • maggie6 posted at 10:18 am on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    maggie6 Posts: 568

    The world is a place with bigger problems. John Bloomfield, a Sacramento Hornet player who was injured in the New Mexico State game on Aug 30 fell into a coma and died yesterday. How sad.
    Condolences to the Sacramento Hornet family. Our problems seem small in comparison.

  • fndavis posted at 9:02 am on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    fndavis Posts: 6

    Yep, I am way over 60 and I'll bet that if I ran across the street and push this guy to the ground, I would get a lot more than a jay walking citation.

  • Firejazbo posted at 8:20 pm on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.

    Firejazbo Posts: 2

    Kramer is close to 60 years old...This young college football player could probably kick his behind. It's football, and the kid is in uniform, if Kramer's push is assault then every chuck in football could be considered assault. Come'on man.

  • jcole33 posted at 3:23 pm on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.

    jcole33 Posts: 74

    I see ISU broke out the broom. Sweep, sweep, sweep.

  • maggie6 posted at 1:58 pm on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.

    maggie6 Posts: 568

    ll things considered Kramer got off this one with a slap on the wrist.
    He should be thanking his lucky stars.

  • birdiet posted at 1:37 pm on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.

    birdiet Posts: 39

    I think it's funny that the Journal story above talks about "two weeks of silence," then lists right below the story a link to another story entitled, "ISU Releases Statement Regarding Kramer Investigation." You guys need to read your own web site.


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